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Innovations in Tooth Bleaching: Deep Bleaching

Aug 6, 2006
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A new bleaching technique has emerged called Deep Bleaching. The name is coined after the inventor, Rod Kurthy, a full-time practicing dentist who spent hundreds of hours in clinical testing of this technique. Rod Kurthy is also a primary clinical product tester for several major dental product manufacturers. The Deep bleach technique is so powerful, it can whiten tetracycline stained teeth and, in some occasions, even veneered teeth.




This procedure involves two power bleaching appointments a week apart, and a home tray in between. For the power appointments, a powerful 9% hydrogen peroxide solution is used and a 16% carbamide peroxide solution is used for the home tray. Depending on the case on the desires of the dentist, on the second visit either the same 9% Hydrogen Peroxide is used, or DeepBleachingMax is used, which is 27% Hydrogen Peroxide. D-Senz-2 is applied after the power bleaching process to help de-sensitize the teeth and seal them from decreased rebound. However, like any teeth whitening procedure, teeth sensitivity is expected with this process. Remember, even with over-the-counter bleaching products, acute painful sensitivity can become an issue.

The split-arch clinical studies showed that nearly all felt sensitivity on the side without desensitizers, but two out of three felt no sensitivity on the other side where the desensitizers were used. The one out of three that did feel sensitivity only felt between 8% - 10% of what they felt on the other side of their mouths. But it is very important for any reader to understand that this does not mean there will never be pain. Some patients are so sensitive that they can't even handle whitestrips on their teeth for than two or three minutes without pain. So even at only 10% of the typical sensitivity, these super-sensitive patients may still feel some dismofot.

No light is necessary with this technique. Tests have been done with and without light activation and no differences have been seen. To support this contention, researchers at CRA have consistently stated that bleaching is a function of the concentration of the bleach and the length of time that the bleach stays on the teeth. Additionally, they contend that a light has minimal to no effect on the bleaching process.

In some cases, porcelain veneers can be revitalized with the deep bleach technique. Sometimes the tooth structure under a veneer can darken over time (over 10 years) which can cause a significant shade difference. A cosmetic dentist usually replaces the veneer when this happens. However, since natural tooth structure is accessible through the back of a veneeer, it is possible to create "brighter" looking veneers with deep bleaching.

Rod's Deep Bleach technique is still very new to the dental community. Not every dentist offers this service, so do your research. Expect to pay up to $1,500 for this procedure.

The system is now being sold under the name KoR Whitening Deep Bleaching.

Read our review of the KoR Whitening Deep Bleaching System.

Updated November 1, 2009

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1. - jay anderson - 02/06/2007
I want the bleaching book?
2. - Alexander - 02/07/2007
That is available through Rod Kurthy's website: http://rodtheideaguy.com/books.html
3. - Angie Kula, DDS - 08/04/2007
A while back I had to back off on a Madow seminar and give my admission to my friend Susan Klyber,DDS. She was so excited about the deep bleaching that she has me hooked. I want to get started can you help me? Thanks Angie
4. - Rod Kurthy, DMD - 11/25/2007
Hi Angie,

Wow, great to hear your enthusiasm!! All you've got to do is log onto www.DeepBleaching.com

There is already a lot of info posted at the site, however we're in the process of updating the site right now, and within a week or two we will have a LOT of information up.

We will also have a consumer side of the site. We're getting a lot of excitement lately from the public. The great thing is that Deep BleachingTM is what most patients are really looking for.

They want a technique that is predictable, that gets EVERYBODY white. They want to still be able to consume their red wine, coffee, tea, etc., and STILL have their teeth PERMANENTLY white. They want something that's entirely safe. They want something that will bleach teech anywhere from the ages of 14 through 100 successfully. They want a technique that allows even people with very sensitive teeth to bleach. They want beautiful, white and NATURAL LOOKING teeth.

And that's Deep Bleaching. What it is NOT is the easiest bleaching. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. There is no such thing as a fast and easy bleaching technique that does all this.

Deep Bleaching MUST be precise. It takes longer for both patient and dental office. There are two in-office procedures after the super-precise Deep Bleaching Trays are fabricated. There are 14 nights of bleaching in-between the two in-office procedures. And there are several 'twists' during the entire treatment phase that result in the explosion of whiteness.

The great thing is that virtually every patient who has Deep Bleaching ends up incredibly exicted and very happy that they selected Deep Bleaching. Unlike so many bleaching techniques you read about on the Internet and read comments from consumers about on the Internet, it is genuinely the real deal.

Very best,

Rod Kurthy
5. - gary e tucker dds - 01/18/2008
when do you nhold classes?
6. - Linda - 03/17/2008
We are interested in Deep BleachingMAX27%, we already bought the first manual and Dr. Schwartz prefers not to buy a second one. Please send some info on this product. Thanks
7. - Bob Snelgrove - 05/11/2008
Sorry, but $1500 still sounds like a gouge for a few hours work and a few dollars (cost) of materials!


bob
8. - carolina - 05/12/2008
This sound like alot of money. I had my teeth whitenend at my Spa for $300.00. I'm a 50 year old smoker and my teeth whitened off the VITA guide. I didn't have to go back or wear uncomfortable messy trays that make you drool.
9. - Bonnie van Daalen - 04/22/2009
Hi,
Here at Dawson we would like to find out where you are offering the course(s) for Deep Bleaching and which Dentists offer this service in the GTA Greater Toronto Area?
10. - Susana - 06/19/2009
Where can I find a list of dentists who currently use Dr. Kurthy's deep bleaching method? Is there a website I can visit?
11. - Rod Kurthy, DMD - 06/23/2009
I'm sorry that I missed many of the questions above.

For Dr. Schwartz -- no, once he owns a manual, updated manuals are free. The only charge would be the cost of shipping.

As far as holding classes, I do lecture on the topic, but actual training is via the training manual. This is not only where you learn the technique, but it is a resource manual to look up information when needed, for ongoing training of new staff, etc.

As far as costs, some dentists do charge $1,500, but I'd say that the overall average for dentists to charge is $1,500.

For the comment by Bob Snellgrove above, even $1,500 certainly is not a gouge. You're obviously not a dentist and do not understand the extreme overhead in a dental practice. Most dentists charge $500-$750 for a single-visit bleaching treatment. Most dentists charge about $400 for at-home bleaching when they're using high quality bleaching trays and high quality bleaching gels. For KoR Deep Bleaching, there are two in-office visits PLUS at-home bleaching. The trays are far and above more precise than any other bleaching tray, and cost the dentist a substantial lab and shipping fee to have them made, or a very substantial amount of time, effort and cost to make them in their own practices. The bleaching gels are the first gels ever to be refrigerated from the instant of manufacture until the instant the dental practice or patient uses them. The treatment also includes costly desensitizers that typically cost $135 for just 10ml for the dentist to buy similar products from other companies. This system is the only system in the world to use two different desenstizers to actually block the pores of the teeth (dentinal tubules) to block sensitivity. Most don't have desensitizers, and most that do simply use potassium nitrate that does NOT plug the pores.

This system is so effective that it is the ONLY system in the world acknowledged to even whiten tetracycline stains, previously thought to be impossible to bleach. This means that this is the most effective (by far) system, it is permanent with easy periodic at-home maintenance, and you do NOT have to give up your coffee, tea and red wine. For the expenses incurred by the dentist, for the time and work put in for the dentist, even at $1,500 this is certainly no "gouge". It's totally apples and oranges.

In fact, the KoR Deep Bleaching system was recently (last month) given the highest rating of ANY consumable product in dentistry by The Dental Product Shopper, unbiased evaluation by their dentist evaluators. The highest rating ever received by ANY consumable dental product was a 4.7 (out of a possible 5). KoR Deep Bleaching received a 4.8. The closest any teeth whitening system has ever come is a 4.2. These are unbiased testing and reviews and companies have absolutely no control over the testing whatsoever.

To find dentists who perform the KoR Deep Bleaching, there is a dentist finder at the website, www.KORwhitening.com. All you have to do is put in your zip code. For those outside the USA, this same website will locate dentists outside the USA.

I hope that I've been able to answer the questions, and I'm sorry that I did not see the questions before.

Thanks,

Dr. Rod Kurthy
12. - Rod Kurrthy, DMD - 06/23/2009
OOPS!! Sorry. Above I MEANT to say that some dentists do charge $1,500, but that the average is about $950 (not $1,500)

Dr. Rod Kurthy
13. - Dr paul avedissian - 08/04/2009
interested in your bleaching products
14. - adan ramirez bahena - 08/24/2009
se escucha muy prometedor, pero falta probarlo.
me gustaria saber el calendario de cursos que se implementan y el costo. gracias
15. - Maxene - 09/20/2009
Please send a listing of dentists in the NYC/Long Island areas who use your technique

Thank you
16. - Beverly - 09/28/2009
I have flouride staining of my teeth, due to growing up in a part of the country that has heavily, naturally flouridated water (I grew up in the country on well water). Does your process help soften or eliminate flouride stains in natural teeth?
17. - Dan - 12/03/2009
I've been looking into different teeth whitening systems. Thanks for the great info, it's been a great help to me.
18. - Shana Musich - 12/07/2009
I am extremely interested in finding a dentist to perform this system on me. The find a dentist menu on your website kept coming up with errors. I live in Colorado, can you help me locate a Dentist in western slope area (grand Junction ) or Denver area ASAP. I am ready to get rolling on this. Thank you.
19. - Carrie - 02/12/2010
I am going through the deep bleaching procedure now. I have several concerns:

1. I asked some questions via email before and no one from KOR Whitening ever responded.

2. I have tetracycline stained teeth. After 3 weeks of bleaching, there is no real whitening yet...

3. I got new desensitizer (refill), but it does not seem to be working. My teeth are extremely sensitive and there is a lot of saliva.

Not very happy so far, given the promises, the high cost and discomfort.
20. - Rod Kurthy, DMD - 02/15/2010
Carrie,

I’m not sure why you did not receive a reply. The company staff is typically very good about answering all questions. Did you try emailing more than once?

The treatment of tetracycline staining is a much slower process. At three weeks it is not surprising that you do not yet see significant results.

Every tetracycline case is different – there are no two alike. The bleaching resistance of tetracycline staining is dependent on many things, including which of the tetracycline family drugs you took (there are several), which pharmaceutical company made the drug, how many times you took the drug, how long you took it for each time, what the dosage was, how many times per day you took it, what ages you were when you took it, how much you weighed when you took it, if your teeth were in a growth spurt when you took it, etc., etc.

The results are also affected by exactly where on the teeth the dark area is. When the dark part of the teeth is right near the gumline, the results will be less, and take longer to achieve.

The results also depend on how closely and adeptly the dental office follows the very precise procedure. It equally depends on if the patient follows the procedure properly. Both of these are important “if’s”. As you are aware, you can give the same ingredients and recipe to two different people to cook, and typically the results will be very different.

Hopefully you were advised that with tetracycline, we never know for sure just how long it will take for your particular teeth to respond. In the training that dentists receive, it is stressed that they can never make particular promises to tetracycline stained patients about what the final result will be – that the only promise that they can make to a tetracycline patient is that there will be a significant result, which no other system ever developed can promise. And again, this is dependent on the type of impression (mold) the dentist takes of the teeth, the accuracy and detail of that impression, the proper fabrication technique of the bleaching tray, the confirmation that the bleaching tray fits and seals well on the patient’s teeth, the patient successfully following the at home instructions (which some patients mistakenly assume they are following correctly but really are not).

I am a bit confused about the statement that there is a lot of saliva. Why is there a lot of saliva? The Deep Bleaching Trays typically should fit and seal so well that you do not feel them in your mouth a lot. Certainly after a couple nights you should be able to almost totally ignore them. Saliva is the enemy, and can destroy bleaching gel very rapidly.

Have you discussed your sensitivity with your dentist? There are steps that can be taken for people that have unusually high sensitivity. Has your dentist suggested what your next step would be? In the training for dentists, this scenario is discussed and the various things that can be done when there is still sensitivity even with the normal application of the desensitizer.

Feel free to email me directly, and if you will give me the name of your dentist in your email, I will be happy to follow up and see if I can observed your “before” photographs, which will give me the ability to at least partially evaluate the difficulty level of your case, and possibly even some photos of the bleaching trays in your mouth so that I can confirm the seal, etc.

My direct email is Rod [at] EvolveDental.net.
21. - Ed - 02/19/2010
Hello Doc,
I too have an issue with tetracyline stained teeth, they are not too dark banded but mostly yellow. I have lived with this agony all my life and I am ready for a change. I am currently going to have the deep bleaching in an dental office in Laurel,MD. The Doctors there are telling that while my teeth may not be super white, but i should see reasonable change overall. But they're not saying how much that would take. Any idea? Thank you Ed
22. - Rod Kurthy, DMD - 02/20/2010
Hi Ed,

First of all, there are other companies out there that claim to provide Deep Bleaching. None of them are the real deal except Evolve Dental Technologies with the KoR Whitening Deep Bleaching.

So you must first check on the website at www.KORwhitening.com. In the upper right corner you can click where it asks if you are a patient. When you get to the patient side of the website, there will be a dentist finder that you can put your zip code into. If the dentist that is going to do Deep Bleaching is not listed there, then the dentist is either not using the entire system or is using a "knock-off" brand. If the dentist is not on that dentist finder, I cannot recommend that you seek treatment there for your tetracycline staining.

I actually just looked, and no, we do NOT have any full-system users in Laurel, MD. If they do not use the KoR system, it's a fake, and you will NOT get the results! If they use the KoR system, but do not use the entire system, they very likely may not get the genuine results.

There is a full system user in Lanham, MD.

Now, to answer your questions -- All tetracycline cases are different. We can never promise a particular result, and we never know for certain how long it will take to get to the result that we would like. It depends on many, many things. When using the full KoR Whitening Deep Bleaching System, and performing all the steps properly, what we can promise is that there is no other system in the world that can get teeth as white and we can promise a very significant result with tetracycline, which no other system can promise.

Typically, tetracycline cases take between 4 to 8 weeks to complete. A few take less, and a few take more.

When the darkest color is near the gumline, these are typically the most difficult. If the darkest area is not right at the gumline, then the results are the best and much faster.

Just be sure to have this done by someone properly trained that uses the proper system.

Best,

Dr. K
23. - Rod Kurthy, DMD - 02/20/2010
I'll tell you what Ed -- email me the name of the dentist in Laurel privately via email at Rod[at]EvolveDental.net, and I will research it and get right back to you to let you know what I find.

Best,

Dr. K
24. - Marina - 03/09/2010
Those of you who have tetracycline stains, be careful. The whitening is NOT permanent, your teeth might go back to their regular dark color. My teeth got lighter after 5 weeks of at-home trays, but darkened again several days after I stopped bleaching. Also, 2 hours after the final in-office procedure I had acute shooting pain for 20 hours.
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